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Isu Azan di Kerinchi Mendedahkan Kemunafikan UMNO

NOTA EDITOR: Dalam UMNO sebuk-sebuk menuduh PAS dipergunakan DAP, rupanya Najib dan UMNO mudah sahaja di pergunakan "MCA". Dengan satu surat sahaja, azan berjaya diperlahankan di Masjid Kampung Kerinchi. Lepas ni, MCA dan MIC cuma perlu menghantar surat dan kita tidak tahu apa lagi ajaran Islam yang yang akan dihapuskan UMNO. Sahlah UMNO diperkudakan MCA.

MCA konsisten membenci ISlam. Sila tonton Youtube di bawah sebagai bukti. Soalnya, UMNO selesa bekerjasama dengan UMNO sebab UMNO juga anti Islam.
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Bantah laungan azan diperlahan, 100 orang berhimpun
Friday, 14 January 2011 | Ruangan: Berita


KUALA LUMPUR, 14 Jan Kira-kira 100 orang berhimpun di sebuah masjid di Kuala Lumpur untuk membantah tindakan seorang ahli MCA yang menulis surat kepada Perdana Menteri mendesak laungan azan diperlahankan kerana kononnya menggangu keharmonian setempat.

Penunjuk perasaan di Masjid Al-Ikhlasiah, Kampung Kerinchi mendesak agar individu itu, seorang peguam bukan Islam ditahan di bawah Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri.

Penduduk sekitar kawasan ini dan wakil pertubuhan bukan kerajaan termasuk Pekida dan Perkasa berkumpul di sini selepas solat Jumaat.

Mereka mendakwa peguam itu yang dikatakan menjadi ahli MCA sejak 1998 menulis surat kepada Perdana Menteri Najib Razak menuntut agar masjid tersebut menghentikan penggunaan pembesar suara bagi tujuan azan.

Penunjuk-penunjuk perasaan menamakan peguam terbabit, malah mempamerkan alamat rumah dan nombor telefonnya pada kain rentang.

Pengerusi Pekida Lembah Pantai, Zakaria Awang mendesak individu itu ditahan di bawah ISA, selain membuat permohonan maaf secara terbuka.

Kumpulan itu juga mengedarkan salinan surat yang didakwa dihantar ke Pejabat Perdana Menteri meminta nada laungan azan menggunakan pembesar suara diperlahankan.

Dalam suratnya bertarikh 20 Disember 2010, peguam tersebut berkata dia ahli MCA sejak 1998 dan ! tinggal di Pantai Hill Park, tidak jauh dari masjid itu sejak lima tahun lalu.


Surely This is The Answer!

from A Little Taffer's Room



Surely this is the answer to Beng Hock's murder! What does this alternate view picture tell you?

They said that Beng Hock was still sleeping around at 6 am. The said that he died around 7.15 am - 11.15 am.

But look at the tear in the pants. What does it tell you?

Let me tell my perspective here.

It seems that some MACC people were still unhappy with Beng Hock's answers over to their questions. They were thinking of resuming the session after his nap on the couch. There were some bad apples involved in the investigation wanted him to simply finger any PR Selangor assemblyman. They were thinking with the kind of "I don't know look" facial expression, Beng Hock is lying in the teeth. So some yahoo man suggested a drastic way to make him talk. They intimidated him in the way of having 2-3 men dragging him off and threaten to drop his ass of the building unless Beng Hock gives a name. And this is at the 14th floor.

Beng Hock absolutely has no idea at all. They were trying to drop him to see if they can get an answer from him.

But the stunt pulled by those officers went wrong. The pants started to tear. They could not have a proper grip to pull Beng Hock back. They were too late, and Beng Hock fell to his death. Horrified at the stunt going wrong, they had to cover up many things - fingerprints, mess, footprints, etc.. to avoid being implicated in future.

You don't need to be a genius to say that. You just have to use your brain very hard. So that mystery letter that surfaced in August 2009 plays a part of this. This should solve the Beng Hock mystery. Why go for the RI when simple thinking and analysis could answer everything that has been paid for the coroner inquest or the royal commission. Third degree interrogation tactics used by MACC to interrogate people? Yes, it happened!
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The Truth About Lying (And Lies About the Truth)

14 January, 2011 By Ruzaini Zul

The Invention of Lying features a high concept narrative set in an alternate reality in which there is no such thing as lying and everything said is the absolute truth. In this world people continually make very blunt, often cruel statements, and remarks that people in the real world would normally keep to themselves. (source: Wikipedia)

The lead character is Mark Bellison (played by Ricky Gervais) a failed writer who gets fired from him job, has an epiphany and decides to tell the world’s first lie. The movie revolves around the consequences of Bellison’s lie and provides a comical examination of what we know about lying… and what we don’t know about not telling the truth.

Here, Ruzaini Zul explores his thoughts and reaction to the movie.

Let’s visit err… alright, the name of the place was never mentioned in the movie. Or was it mentioned? Maybe I didn’t hear it correctly and distinctively? Never mind, I’ll just stick to my proposition and begin writing this article, which is to tell you that I’ve had the pleasure of being witness to the most creative, innovative, intelligent and extraordinary invention to have taken place in the world.

In The Invention of Lying, we are introduced to a parallel world in which everyone tells the truth and no one lies. Everyone says out loud what they think. No one filters their speech and they are more than happy and excited to tell you what they think of you, the environment, their workplace and pretty much anything and everything. It is a world where everyone is just naturally compelled to speak the truth about anything that comes across their mind!

Watching this movie, I started to think about the whole idea and concept about "truth" and "lies", and the very meaning of these two terms. I looked up these two words in the dictionary and found at least seven definitions of the word "truth" and another nine for its antonym. But all these definitions don’t really conform to the idea of truth and lies that the world has in mind.

Let me try to explain this.

In its simple form, truth is understood as the telling of the actual state of a thing or a matter, or even an opinion. You say it exactly the way you think it without the frills that come with being diplomatic. Now, most people have the notion that truth is offensive. And to a certain extent, this is rather true.

Likewise, lying is understood as the denial of the actual state of a thing; the concealment of information; a filtered opinion or the keeping of a secret. Lying can sometimes also be a good thing, especially when the circumstances force us to lie. For example, when the revelation of the truth would "hurt" its recipient. Regrettably, this was an aspect that wasn’t explored in the movie.

That said, I’d like to present my understanding of the truth and what constitutes the truth. I will do the same for lying.

When you tell the truth, you are simply telling people the actual state of a thing; an undisputed fact. Truth can be offensive, no doubt about that. And it is especially true in cases where there is reluctance by people to accept the truth. At the same time, it isn’t true that the telling the truth must necessarily offend. If there is any offense, it would most likely come from the reluctance to accept, not the manner of delivery. I can tell you the truth with a subtle and soft voice, which I normally do and yet it can be quite offensive to you and vice versa.

As for lying, it is the act of giving information which defies the actual state of the matter, distorting the undisputed fact and manufacturing a different matter altogether from the actual state. Put simply, lying is when you don’t tell someone the actual state of a thing or a matter.

Now let’s go to the part about identifying when an act is not lying.

Firstly, I’m not lying to you if I don’t give my opinion concerning you or anything else because there was nothing to say in the first place that could’ve been said to have departed from the actual state of a matter.

Secondly, I’m also not lying when I don’t tell you something in its entirety. I’m merely not supplying you with sufficient information. Similarly, I’m not lying when I imagine or when I speak of something in hope because there is no real standard to define whether my subjective imagination is wrong or not.

I couldn’t help but to disagree a lot on the concept of truth and lies when I watched The Invention of Lying. I still hold the view that it isn’t possible for the world to be defined purely in black and white. Such a simplistic notion insults our intelligence, mocks our ability to think creatively and is an affront to our ability to wisely discern between what’s true and what isn’t. These instances were demonstrated perfectly in the movie by dim-witted characters who couldn’t decide on simple matters such as which acts were considered right and wrong.

All in all, the movie reflects a lot of the world as we know it. What we know to be the truth (or untruth) and what we regard as right or wrong are all ideas (some skewed) that we’ve inherited from our predecessors and which we pass on to the generation after us, and so on.

The world Mark Bellison is forced to live in is simply one that is impossible. And that’s the whole truth.

Ruzaini hails from Kota Kinabalu, Sabah and having resided in various places within 17 years of his life (within Sabah only, of course), he has a problem identifying any specific place to be called his hometown. Instead, he borrows a phrase from Dr. Farish Noor’s "The Nomad Prayer" in his book "Qur’an and Cricket" - "God take me home. And let my home be everywhere."

He is a self-proclaimed perfectionist yet laid-back and fairly poor in spelling. Currently in his final semester of reading law Ruzaini likes to go deep into issues and topics that interest him. He thinks it is more interesting to explore the "why" than the "what". If one settles only on the "what", one will only have superficial knowledge about the thing. Having said that, Ruzaini more often than not ends up having a monologue when it comes to understanding the "why". He wonders why.

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  1. paan on 14 January, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Good one!
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    nice piece !

Its still Justice Mohd Zabidin Mohd Diah presiding sodomy II....


As expected, the Court of Appeal on Friday dismissed Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim's bid to disqualify Justice Mohd Zabidin Mohd Diah from presiding over his sodomy trial. The court struck out his appeal after accepting the preliminary objection by the prosecution.

"Are you surprised," Anwar could resist not turning around to ask the reporters in the courtroom.

Locking up Anwar ahead of GE

Indeed, it is crucial for his political arch rival Prime Minister Najib Razak to have him locked up before calling for snap general elections. Despite his coalition's newness and lack of funds, none of the Malaysia's ruling elite would dare to underestimate the 63-year old's political charisma and savvy. He is acknowledged as the glue that binds the fast-rising Pakatan Rakayt coalition made up of DAP, PAS and his own PKR party.

Anwar has accused Najib and wife Rosmah Mansor of taking a leaf from former premier Mahathir Mohamad, who also used the same trick to derail his political career in 1998. Despite massive international condemnation, Mahathir hammered through a sentence that jailed Anwar for 6 years but when he retired, the courts quickly overturned the conviction and acquitted Anwar.

In the latest 're-run', hence the nickname of Sodomy II for the current trial, Anwar has accused the first couple of conspiring with the complainant Saiful Bukhari Azlan. The allegations surfaced soon after Anwar announced his parliamentary comeback. Najib, who initially denied knowing Saiful, later confessed to meeting Saiful before the latter lodged the police report that led to this trial.

Kangaroo court

On Dec 6 last year, Anwar failed in his second bid to get the High Court judge to recuse himself from his (Anwar's) second sodomy trial. Justice Mohd Zabidin himself had then dismissed Anwar's application, after ruling that there was no real danger of bias. It was the second time Anwar had filed an application to recuse the trial judge.

The first was filed in March last year, with Anwar accusing the judge of bias for not initiating contempt action against Utusan Malaysia for being mischievous, and a disruption to a fair trial. That application was dismissed.

Anwar is accused of having sodomised Saiful, his former personal aide, at unit 11-5-1, Desa Damansara Condominium, Jalan Setiakasih, Bukit Damansara, between 3.01pm and 4.30pm, on June 26, 2008. The sodomy trial is due to come up for case management on Monday.

source:malaysian chronicle

cheers.

Najib will you marry me if I bring Anwar and Azmin down and let you win the coming Election



First is an outgoing Umno youth chief who scored a national first when he was rejected for a ministerial role.
Second is Minister in the Prime minister’s department, Nazri Aziz whose greater ‘achievements’ was shouting the phrase “bloody racist” (or variants of it) 28 times in Parliament in 2005.



Last but not least, is the undischarged bankrupt Ummi Hafilda Ali, who appeared like a deus ex machina for BN. She considers herself a “true patriot” and claims to be able to single-handedly lead BN to victory.

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Ummi Hafilda Ali, was a key witness in Opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim’s first sodomy trial. She has been out of circulation for the past 13 years and her sudden appearance has prompted speculation that she is in financial difficulties.
Ummi has naturally, been misunderstood. She was upset that because of her absence in the 2008 elections, BN lost 5 states and performed dismally. She now hopes to make up for her absence.
She said, “In the 12th general election, when I did not take part in the campaign, you could see how arrogant Anwar was when spreading lies, because of his lies we lost five states to the opposition”.
“If I go around the country campaigning that will be the end of Anwar because I know his secrets,” she added.
Ummi may be short on policy but has tons of trivia that might appeal to the core of BN voters.
She states that the only reason for her sudden appearance is to actively campaign for BN in the next general election. She believes that her presence, will prevent a repeat of Election 2008 when the coalition lost its customary two-thirds parliamentary majority for the first time.
Others however, believe that Ummi suffers from sibling rivalry and cannot bear to see her older brother Azmin Ali, grab the limelight now that he is PKR’s deputy president. Her preferred strategy is to attack and besmirch the character of Anwar, her brother Azmin, and also her sister-in-law, Shamsidar.
She also claimed that Anwar and Shamsidar had an illegitimate child.
It is far easier to attack a defenceless child
She said, “You can compare the picture of this daughter with Azmin's other children.”
Ummi suffers from selective amnesia. Was she not informed that during the course of the trial, DNA tests proved that Azmin and Shamsidar were the biological parents of the child in question?
Ummi is perhaps smarting from accusations that she was responsible for straining ties within her own family and thus, is venting her frustrations on her niece.
Ummi knows better than most people that the Malaysian public love family feuds and scandals and that in her world, they would rather concentrate on personalities rather than policies.
That is why Najib did not have any reforms to unveil at the recent BN convention, unlike Pakatan Rakyat, with their detailed ‘10 point, 100 day-reforms plan’.
Ummi is naturally, saving her best for Anwar.
Ummi claimed that “If anyone is willing to invite me, I will go. Some may say Anwar is a great orator but I know he is afraid of me.”
Anwar’s underlying weakness is that he understands only too well the concerns of ordinary voters.
Najib is content with his line-up of people with a vast array of experience in primitive tribal politics.
On the other hand, Anwar has had to convince voters by relying on his ‘10-point, 100-day reforms plan’. This is the series of reforms which Pakatan hopes to adopt to effect a change in the complexion of Malaysian politics.
Anwar’s appeal is in how he addresses the concerns of the disenchanted people, whose hopes and dreams of a better Malaysia, he is desperate to tackle. Anwar has vowed to work on the positive aspects of governance and said that if Pakatan Rakyat were to form the next federal government, it would revamp critical institutions like the police, Election Commission, the Attorney-General's Chambers, the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission and also reward teachers with additional money.
On the other hand, Ummi has chosen a different tack. She hopes Anwar will succumb to fear.

Should Mahatir most trusted hitman Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail the most incompetent Attorney-General resign or be sacked?



Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is the most incompetent attorney general I can remember, ever (or at least, during the latter half of the 20th century in U.S. history). Janet Reno took some hits while she held the office. In recent history, chiefly because of decisions she made during the Waco incident, she held top award for the most controversial AG. However, she never indiscriminately discharged officials who, it turned out, were not staunch supporters of the sitting party in the White House. She did not use the excuse that she didn't "recall," when questioned about any faux pas she made while acting as the prosecutor for the people of the United States.


Its difficult for many to compete with the likes of Robert Kennedy, but the attorney general's job is to protect and support the People, not act as the private attorney to the President. Clearly, Mr. Gonzales still believes he is still in Texas and that Mr. Bush is still the governor of Texas, rather than the president of the United States.

Mr. Gonzales claims that he was not aware that the illegal alien shot by the two border patrol agents transported drugs across the border. The AG claimed he had nothing to do with the two agents being prosecuted and sentenced to 12 years (between them) imprisonment and thrown into the general population of a Texas prison to serve those sentences. I don't RECALL him commenting on the 2+ million dollar suit the illegal drug dealer brought against the People of the United States, either. Maybe this, too, Attorney General Gonzales doesn't RECALL?

Whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales 'recalls' or 'remembers' or 'had anything to do with' any of these incidents is irrelevant because, if he did not, he SHOULD have as the attorney for the People. It was his job and responsibility to be involved... to bring the suit... to act as OUR counsel. Even if that meant he prosecute the very people he has been protecting.

Yes, Mr. Gonzales should resign. It is obvious he either does not know his job or doesn't have the courage to stand his ground to do it. Nothing personal; just facts.

AS AN objective observer of the Attorney-General’s Chambers, one is compelled to feel a tinge of sympathy for its highest officer, Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail.
His elevation from Law Revision Commissioner to attorney-general within five years and at the age of 47 should be seen as a testimony of his skills and ability as a lawman. Unfortunately even today, he has to continue to prove himself to his critics and the public.

His latest brush with gossip involves an alleged close relationship with Malaysia Airlines senior executives while the company is being investigated for its colossal losses.While the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) Consultation and Corruption Prevention Panel itself is mired in controversy following contradictory statements between the panel and its chairman, Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, it is clear that Abdul Gani is still not out of the woods yet, since the MACC is still investigating.


In a court of law, Abdul Gani should be accorded the privilege of being presumed innocent until proven otherwise. As much as it hurts his critics to admit, the fact is his innocence is for the legal system to determine – however flawed it may seem.But on the other hand there is another court – the court of public opinion which has already charged, tried and executed Abdul Gani for the controversies his name has been dragged into over the years.

Perhaps Abdul Gani’s own demeanour – combative, defensive and dismissive – does not endear himself much to the public. Although those who know him better will attest that his mood swings are as fickle as some of the prosecution’s arguments in high- profile cases.Journalists can vouch for his perceived dislike of the media, berating us with generous doses of sections in the Printing Presses and Publications Act. Nevertheless, he always entertains our queries and even returning calls – albeit with liberal servings of condescension.

However, my last meeting with him over a year ago revealed a softer side to Abdul Gani. Someone who was tired, despondent and apologetic even, but undoubtedly with still enough fire in his belly to burn you to a crisp.
Perhaps the tag of being one of the most disliked public servants around was wearing him down.But did he bring it upon himself or is he everyone’s favourite punching bag as the buck stops with him?

"I have to make decisions based on the law not on what’s popular," he once said while discussing the slow progress in bringing to book all those responsible for the Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal.
To his credit, Abdul Gani was the one who had advised the government to acquire the land for the free zone as it would save taxpayers billions – advice that was not heeded.The latest slew of charges against Sime Darby executives is also a feather in the cap of the A-G’s Chambers.

It is without a doubt that he has faithfully served the chambers under three prime ministers. While he has served them well, the jury is still out on whether he had served justice well.Because in the court of public opinion, it is not PKFZ or Sime Darby and the string of many other successful prosecutions which have put away crooks that he will be remembered for.It will be the unsuccessful cases, the NFAs (no further action), the controversial cases and the goings on within the four walls of the A-G’s Chambers as well as his own conduct that will determine the rakyat’s perception if whether they are satisfied with the performance of their attorney-general.

With the MAS issue over his head, the people have a right to ask if their attorney-general can continue to perform his duties to the best of his ability.Perhaps with all that is going on, Abdul Gani could be contemplating other ways in which he can continue to serve his country.Turning 56 this year, perhaps Abdul Gani is wondering "what a thankless job!" (And I remember him uttering these words, or something to that effect).
After all, he is supposed to serve the public – a sceptical public who keep second-guessing his every action and decision. Maybe Abdul Gani will come to a realisation that he should move on as we do not deserve him.

Like everyone else, Terence simply hopes justice will prevail.

President George Bush finally lost his battle to hang on to the attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, yesterday after months of unremitting Congressional pressure over a series of scandals that included the firing of nine state prosecutors, wiretapping and torture.

Mr Bush blamed the Democrats, accusing them of dragging a decent and talented man through the mud for political reasons.

His loss of yet another high-profile colleague demonstrated how weak he has become at the tail-end of his presidency.

Mr Gonzales formally announced his resignation yesterday after informing Mr Bush by phone on Friday at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. Mr Gonzales flew to Crawford to discuss it with him over lunch on Sunday. Mr Bush accepted his offer, effective September 17.

The president, though he has removed one of the biggest sores in his relations with Congress, now faces the prospect of awkward and long drawn-out confirmation hearings over a successor.

One of Mr Bush's closest friends, Mr Gonzales has been the No 1 target of Democratic Congressmen since the resignation of the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, in November. Fatally for his chances of hanging on to office, he lost the support of many Republican Congressmen, who saw him as damaging the party.

His departure leaves the vice-president, Dick Cheney, as the only original member of the team that entered the White House with Mr Bush in 2001. It comes only a fortnight after the resignation of Karl Rove, Mr Bush's chief strategist and, like Mr Gonzales, a member of the "Texas mafia" that had been in the president's team since he was governor of the state in the 1990s.

The first Hispanic to reach such a high office in the US, Mr Gonzales made a short resignation statement at the justice department in Washington and declined to answer reporters' questions.

He gave no explanation for his resignation and instead stuck to effusive comments about what a privilege heading the justice department had been and thanked those employed there for their service. He said it was through them that "the rights and civil liberties of our citizens are protected".

Mr Gonzales, 52, the son of immigrants, added: "I often remind our fellow citizens that we live in the greatest country in the world and that I have lived the American dream. Even my worst days as attorney general have been better than my father's best days."

In a short statement in Texas, Mr Bush, who only three weeks ago said he would stand by Mr Gonzales, described him as "a man of integrity, decency and principle". He said: "After months of unfair treatment that has created a harmful distraction at the justice department, Judge Gonzales decided to submit his resignation and I accepted his decision. It's sad that we live in a time when a talented and honourable person like Alberto Gonzales is impeded from doing important work because his good name was dragged through the mud for political reasons."

Mr Gonzales's hold on office was undermined by a disastrous series of appearances before Congressional committees investigating his handling of the sacked prosecutors. He repeatedly told the Congressmen he could not remember key events and conversations.

The White House said Mr Bush has not yet made a decision about who to appoint as a replacement. The solicitor general, Paul Clement, will serve as acting attorney general.

Democrats claimed the prosecutors were sacked last year for political reasons but the White House insisted it had been because some of them were not up to the job.

Mr Gonzales lost credibility too when he got into a muddle over habeas corpus, suggesting before a Congressional committee that it was not guaranteed by the constitution.

He was the White House counsel from 2001 until 2005, when he took over as attorney general. He was a controversial figure even as counsel when he wrote that parts of the Geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war were "obsolete" and "quaint". He also indicated that torture was acceptable in certain circumstances.

The Democratic leader in the senate, Harry Reid, said: "This resignation is not the end of the story. Congress must get to the bottom of this mess and follow the facts where they lead, into the White House."

The ex-team

Key allies who have left the Bush administration:

Karl Rove: Senior adviser and chief policy aide to George Bush. Resigned August 2007.

Dan Bartlett: White House counsellor. Resigned: June 2007.

Harriet Miers: White House counsel. Resigned January 2007.

John Bolton: US ambassador to UN. Resigned December 2006.

Donald Rumsfeld: Defence secretary. Resigned November 2006.

Andrew Card: Chief of staff. Resigned March 2006.

Lewis "Scooter" Libby: Chief of staff to vice-president, Dick Cheney. Resigned October 2005. Sentenced to two and a half years June 2007 for perjury and obstruction of justice in relation to the Iraq war.

Paul Wolfowitz: Deputy defence secretary. Resigned March 2005.

John Ashcroft: Attorney general. Resigned November 2004.

Colin Powell: Secretary of state. Resigned November 2004.

Ari Fleischer: Press secretary. Resigned July 2003.

Anwar Ibrahim Sodomy II – The Recorded Truth – 14 Januari 2011


Mahkamah Rayuan Malaysia
Di hadapan YA Datuk Wira Low Hop Bing, HMR
YA Dato’ Haji Abdul Malik bin Haji Ishak, HMR
YA Dato’ Ahmad bin Haji Maarop, HMR

Pihak-pihak:
PP: Semua hadir kecuali MY
PB: KS, SN, Datuk Param Cumaraswamy, Ram Karpal

[9.44 a.m.]
Rayuan Mengecualikan Hakim W09-245-2010
KS: Dengan izin YA-YA, saya ingin berhujah di dalam Bahasa Inggeris. YA, we received a notice of preliminary objection addressed to us from En. Wong Chiang Kiat yesterday. YA might want to hear the preliminary objection first.
YA: Yes. Indeed. So who will be submitting?
MHZ: I will, YA.
YA: Have you file the submission on the preliminary objection?
MHZ: Yes. I’ll be reading the full submission. YA, may I start with the grounds?
YA: Yes.
MHZ: [read submission]
This is an appeal filed by the Appellant against the decision of Justice Dato’ Mohamad Zabidin bin Mohd Diah, given on 6.12.2010, whereby, the learned trial Judge had dismissed the Appellant’s Notice of Motion dated 24.11.2010, to recuse himself (the learned trial Judge) from continuing to handle the criminal proceedings against the Appellant in Criminal Trial No. MTJ3-45-9-2009.
It must be pointed out that this is the second application filed by the Appellant to recuse the learned trial Judge in the course of this trial and we are still at the stage of cross-examination of the prosecution’s 3rd witness.
There was an earlier application filed by the Appellant on 8.2.2010, also to recuse the learned trial Judge. The said application was filed as a result of the rulings of the learned trial Judge dismissing two applications filed by the Appellant to cite Utusan Malaysia for contempt and also to issue warning to Utusan Malaysia concerning reports of the trial published in the said papers on 4th and 5th of February 2010 respectively.
KS: My learned friend should not go to the merit, but should straight away go to the preliminary objection.
YA: I agree with your learned friend. The lawyer is correct. I think you must go straight to the jurisdiction issue.
KS: My learned friend must go to the preliminary objection unless he concedes it, YA.
MHZ: I’m laying down what had happened in the lower court.
YA: The matter is in the lower court and not here. So start with page 8.
MH: [read submission]
The ruling of the learned trial Judge, in refusing to acquiesce to the Appellant’s application, to recuse himself is clearly not within the purview of the definition of ‘decision’ in section 3 of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 (CJA).
It must be noted that the said ruling was made in the course of a trial. More importantly, it has not finally disposed of the rights of the Appellant.
It is well accepted that the rights of an Appellant to appeal against the decision of the High Court are governed by section 50 of the CJA which provides that:
50. Jurisdiction to hear and determine criminal appeals
(1) Subject to any rules regulating the proceedings of the Court of Appeal in respect of criminal appeals, the Court of Appeal shall have jurisdiction to hear and determine any appeal against any decision made by the High Court –
(a) in the exercise of its original jurisdiction; and
(b) in the exercise of its appellate or revisionary jurisdiction in respect of any criminal matter decided by the Sessions Court.
(2) An appeal shall lie to the Court of Appeal with the leave of the Court of Appeal, against any decision of the High Court in the exercise of its appellate or revisionary jurisdiction in respect of any criminal matter decided by a Magistrate’s Court but such appeal shall be confined to only questions of law which have arisen in the course of the appeal or revision and the determination of which by the High Court has effected the event of the appeal or revision. (Emphasis supplied)
(2A) …
(3) …
(4) …
The word ‘decision’ as appeared in section 50 of the CJA is defined in section 3 of the same Act as follows:
“decision” means judgment, sentence or order, but does not include any ruling made in the course of a trial or hearing of any cause or matter which does not finally dispose of the rights of the parties. (Emphasis supplied)

In the accompanying Explanatory Notes when the word ‘decision’ in section 3 of the CJA was amended, the reasons for the amendment were stated as follows:
“Pada masa ini, semasa mendengar kes, jika mahkamah membuat keputusan tentang kebolehterimaan apa-apa keterangan atau dokumen, pihak yang tidak berpuas hati boleh memfailkan rayuan. Jika rayuan sedemikian difailkan, mahkamah terpaksa memberhentikan pendengaran kes itu sementara menanti keputusan rayuan itu oleh mahkamah atasan. Ini menyebabkan pendengaran itu lambat selesai, lebih-lebih lagi apabila rayuan difailkan terhadap tiap-tiap keputusan yang dibuat oleh mahkamah bicara. Pindaan ini dicadangkan untuk membantu mempercepat pendengaran kes di mahkamah bicara.” (Emphasis supplied)
YA: Can we have the english version as well?
MHZ: I refer to our the bundle of authorities, tab 9, page 2.
YA: This is the original one?
MH: Yes. [continue reading submission]
In Dato’ Seri Anwar Bin Ibrahim v Public Prosecutor [1999] 1 MLJ 321, the Court of Appeal when deliberating on the ambit of the word ‘decision’ in section 3 of the CJA, opined at p 335 that:
“A decision made pending the trial of the charges against the appellant is not, in our considered opinion, a decision (ruling) that had the effect of finally determining the rights of the appellant. It is only the outcome of the trial that would have the effect of finally disposing of his rights. A decision on bail (by the court of first instance), whether the grant or refusal of it, will not finally determine the rights of the appellant in the outcome of his trial. That being so, the order of the High Court in refusing to admit the appellant to bail is not appealable to the Court of Appeal.” (Emphasis supplied)
Similarly in Saad Bin Abas & Anor v Public Prosecutor [1999] 1 MLJ 129, the application of section 50(2) of the CJA was explained by the Court of Appeal at page 138 as follows:
“So, for the purpose of s 50(2), this court has to first ascertain whether the ‘decision’ of the High Court in ordering the applicants before us to enter on their defence was a ruling that had the effect of finally disposing of their rights. Certainly not, and it would only happen after a decision had been made at the close of the defence.”

In Regina v Collins [1970] 1QB 710, the Court of Appeal of England, pursuant to a motion filed with regards to the decision of the court below in refusing to order further particulars of a count in an indictment held that:
“…the court had no jurisdiction to hear the application; that the Court of Appeal (criminal Division), having the same powers as its predecessor, the Court of Criminal Appeal, which was created by the Criminal Appeal Act 1907, had no statutory jurisdiction to hear an interlocutory appeal; that since the court was created by statute, it had no powers beyond those conferred on it by Parliament. Accordingly, there was no inherent jurisdiction to hear interlocutory appeals.” (Emphasis supplied)

The above case did not define ‘interlocutory’ nor ‘interlocutory appeal’. However, in Black’s Law Dictionary (Eight Edition), the word ‘interlocutory’, (when referring to an order, judgment, appeal etc.) is defined as ‘interim or temporary, not constituting a final resolution of the whole controversy.’

On the other hand, the phrase ‘interlocutory appeal’ is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary (Eight Edition) as ‘an appeal that occurs before the trial court’s final ruling on the entire case.”

It cannot be gainsaid that the appeal filed by the Appellant herein is actually an interlocutory appeal as it was ‘an appeal that occurs before the trial court’s final ruling on the entire case.’ Such being the case, the definition of the word ‘decision’ in section 3 of the CJA, would clearly preclude the Appellant from pursuing with this appeal.

Therefore, the Court of Appeal is not reposed with the jurisdiction to hear this appeal.

This Honourable Court in Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim v Public Prosecutor (Court of Appeal. Criminal Appeal No. W-05-178-2010 – Unreported), which was an earlier appeal filed by the Appellant against the ruling of the learned trial Judge in refusing to allow the defence to inspect the section 112 statement of the complainant, held that:
“(1) We are of the view that the ruling of the learned trial Judge was made in the course of a trial where the rights of the Appellant has not been fully disposed off. Therefore the ruling in refusing to allow the statements of the complainant recorded under section 112 Criminal Procedure Code, to be produced for inspection by the

Appellant is not within what is envisaged by the definition of “decision” as provided for by section 3 of Courts of Judicature Act 1964.

(2) Our jurisdiction to hear and determine the appeal is governed by section 50 of Courts of Judicature Act 1964. We have no jurisdiction to hear an appeal which is not against a decision made by the High Court.”

The Court of Appeal in the above case then proceeded to examine the term “decision” as defined in section 3 of the CJA, the explanatory statement accompanying the amendment to the term “decision” and the relevant authorities illustrating the said term.

Having done do, the Court of Appeal held that:
“(4) It cannot be gainsaid that the appeal filed by the Appellant herein is really an interlocutory appeal as it is an appeal that occurs before the trial’s court final ruling on the entire case.
(5) Therefore we have no jurisdiction to hear and determine this appeal.”

The Federal Court had recently also dealt with the same issue in Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim v Public Prosecutor [2010] 6 MLJ 585, where it was explained that:
“[24] The underlying reason behind the amendment to the definition of ‘decision’ in s 3 of the CJA, introduced by Amendment Act A1031 of 1998, which came into effect on 31 July 1998 is to stop parties from stalling a trial before the trial court by filing appeal after appeal on rulings made by the trial court in the course of a trial.

This is what the amendment seeks to achieve as evident from the explanatory statement to the Bill which reads:

2 Clause 2 seeks to amend section 3 of Act 91.

At the moment, in the course of hearing a case, if the court decides on the admissibility of any evidence or document, the dissatisfied party may file an appeal. If such appeal is filed, the court has to stop the trial pending the decision of the appeal by the superior court. This cause a long delay in the completion of the hearing, especially when an appeal is filed against every ruling made by the trial court. The amendment is proposed in order to help expedite the hearing of cases in trial courts.

[25] Quite apart from the explanatory statement to the Bill the definition of ‘decision’ by itself, to our mind, is sufficiently clear, and it is the duty of the court to give effect to the same. Justice demands that cases should move without unnecessary interruption to their final conclusion. That is what the amendment seeks to achieve. The right of a party who is aggrieved by a ruling, after all, is not being compromised, as the party can always raise the issue during the appeal, if any, to be filed after the trial process is brought to its conclusion.

CONCLUSION

[26] For the above reasons, we agree with the Court of Appeal that the ruling of the trial court in this case is not a ‘decision’ as defined in s 3 of the CJA and hence it is not appealable. In the light of our decision, it is therefore not necessary for us to consider grounds 3 and 4 of the petition.”

Surely, the ruling of the learned trial Judge not to recuse himself could not have been a “decision” as envisaged by section 3 of the CJA. It must be remembered that the present application is a second application by the Appellant to recuse the trial Judge. There could be many more to come. To permit the Appellant to appeal for each and every such ruling would be to permit the defence to stall ‘a trial before the trial court by filing appeal after appeal on rulings made by the trial court in the course of a trial, which was clearly forbidden by the Federal Court. (Emphasis supplied)

Applying the principles as enunciated by the Federal Court in the above case, it is rather obvious that the ruling of the learned trial Judge is refusing to acquiesce to the demand of the defence for him to be recused, is definitely a non-appealable ruling.

On this preliminary issue alone, we respectfully urge this Honourable Court to dismiss the Appellant’s appeal for want of jurisdiction.

YA: So that concludes your submission on the preliminary objection?
MHZ: Yes.
YA: And also I have your skeletal submission, KS.
KS: First, as to what constitutes a final order it is important to apply the principle in Section 3. What does the amendment of Section 3 says? [read Section 3 of Courts of Judicature Act 1964. []. That would be a final order with regard to the application before your Lordship this morning.
YA: []
KS: A procedural ruling which is made to dispose the rights of the parties could not be a final matter. A procedural matter. A recusal of a judge. Does it involves the decision upon it be procedural or substantive? We say it is substantive.

We say that this court, Court of Appeal comes from a lower court. It’s a form of rehearing. Your Lordship must step into the shoes of the trial judge. We say that the recusal of the learned trial judge is a final order. The reason is this, at this stage if the learned trial judge recused himself that would have been the end of the matter. Your Lordship ought to step into the shoes of the trial court. If he would to recuse himself, that would be a final order. Just because he did not recuse himself does not mean it is not a final order. Because if he recuse himself then another judge would have to take over. That is the matter would take into the proper subjective.

There is no objection on the application we made for stay pending appeal. That would be the authority in the case of Rowstead System Sdn Bhd v Bumicrystal Technology Sdn Bhd [2005] 3 MLJ 132 which is in tab 2 of our bundle. Of course my learned friend would have taken objection on that alone. In other application pending before the court of appeal and application for stay was made it has always been the stand of the prosecutor that it is not final order and therefore stay should not be granted.

We say that Saad bin Abas had been wrongly decided. Is this strong bench brave enough to be part of the decision? What does Saad bin Abas said? It depends on this court that it is not a final order. If it goes against the prosecutor and at the end of the case defence is not called and the person acquitted, then it become a final order. And the prosecutor ought to appeal because it is a final order. What if the Court of Appeal reverses the decision that defence ought to be called? That is why I say it would be in the form of re-hearing. Your Lordship must place your Lordship in the shoes of the trial judge. Otherwise your Lordship will failed your Lordship duty as judges and going against the [] form of justice.

We say clearly this ruling made by the earned trial judge is a final order. It is for you to say that the learned judge if he recuse himself is a final order. In other words, the right of the accused will be finally determined.

The principle is enunciated in the Federal Court in Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s case. And the principle also lay out in light term in various occasion. In fact in application in the form of Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s trial in the High Court. Compare to here YA, under the circumstances applying these principles to the fact, or to the petition or the perspective in this application we say this court has jurisdiction to hear the appeal and therefore the court should dismissed my learned friend’s preliminary objection and proceed with the merits of the application.

YA: First, can you reply to your learned friend contention in Saad bin Abas? Your learned friend says that the decision in Saad bin Abas is wrongly decided. Secondly, on the issue of no objection during the application for stay pending appeal.
MHZ: In Saad bin Abas, decision has been confirmed and affirmed by the Federal Court in Letchumanan. Second, my learned friend raised the issue when the defence is not called then there’s a right to appeal.
YA: Wait. You said that Saad bin Abas has been affirmed in Letchumanan in Federal Court?
MHZ: Yes.
YA: What’s the citation?
MHZ: We don’t have it right now but I undertake to supply it to you later, YA. On the issue of calling of defence, of course those instances are within the ambit of the definition of the word “decision” where it is a final order and thus is a decision within the definition of Section 3 because it is a final order because the case has been finally disposed and the thus the rights of the parties has been disposed. That is the reply for Saad bin Abas.

Next, when my learned friend says that we did not object for the application of stay, there are 2 reasons, i.e. jurisdiction of this court to hear the appeal and the application of stay and that is two different issue and should be deal separately. That is my reply.
YA: Yes, KS?
KS: Art.8(1) of the Federal Constitutions provides for equality before the law and everyone is entitled to protection before the law. In other word it depends on this court to decide whether it is appealable or not. If defence is not called, and the person is acquitted, then the Public Prosecutor has the right to appeal. [] equality. Your Lordship should consider this application within the context of Art 8(1) of the Federal Constitution. There should not be discrimination between an accused person and the prosecutor.

That would be all Thank you, my Lords.
YA: We will give our major consideration on this submission and will continue at 11.00 a.m. Mahkmamah ditangguhkan kepada pukul 11 pagi.
[10.15 a.m.]

[11.02 a.m.]
YA: Kami mengucapkan terima kasih kepada TPR-TPR yang bijaksana dan peguam-peguam yang bijaksana yang telah mengemukakan hujah-hujah secara berkemahiran. Dan setelah mempertimbangkan hujah2 tersebut, ini adalah keputusan kami sebulat suara.

Secara ringkas, keputusan kami adalah berikut:
The question raised for our determination revolves around the jurisdiction to hear this appeal and the accused right to appeal on the basis of Section 50 (1)(a) and Section 3 of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 upon the true construction of the word “decision” in Section 50(1)(a) read with section 3 of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964, we are of the view that the ruling of the learned High Court judge was made in the course of the trial and therefore outside the ambit of Section 50(1)(a) and section 3 of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964. We therefore hold that this court has no jurisdiction to hear this appeal and similarly the accused has no right to appeal at the interlocutory stage before the High Court . In those circumstances we unanimously sustain the prosecution preliminary objection and dismis the appeal by the accused.
MH: Terima kasih, YA.
YA: Mahkamah ditangguhkan.
[11.06 a.m.]

Jawi denies involvement in ‘azan dispute’

Games that Mamak organizes ...


Federal Territory Islamic Department (Jawi) director Datuk Che Mat Che Ali said today that no directive was issued for a mosque here to lower the volume of its loudspeakers after Muslims protested this afternoon over a purported complaint by an MCA member about noise levels of the azan.

“I do not know about the directive to lower the volume when reciting the azan,” Che Mat toldThe Malaysian Insider today.

“We also did not issue the directive.”

Earlier today, about 100 protesters gathered outside the Al-Ikhlasiah Mosque in Pantai Dalam here to urge the government to arrest a lawyer under the Internal Security Act (ISA) for allegedly pressuring the mosque to lower the volume of its loudspeakers.

The demonstrators also held posters naming the lawyer and displaying what they claimed was his home address in Pantai Hill Park condominium.

The group, from Muslim welfare organisation Pekida, also distributed copies of a fax, purportedly from the man and said to have been sent to the Prime Minister’s Office, asking for the volume of the mosque’s loudspeakers to be lowered.

In the letter dated December 20, 2010, the man said that he has been a member of MCA since 1998.

He said he has been living in Pantai Hill Park for five years and was roused in the mornings by the mosque’s call for prayers.

The Muslim call for prayer’s five recitals daily first became a political issue in 2008 when Selangor executive councillor Teresa Kok was arrested under the ISA for allegedly asking a Puchong mosque to stop playing the azan over its loudspeakers.

Kok, who was released a week after her arrest, denied the allegation while the mosque’s committee members also came forward to defend the Selangor DAP chairman. - Malaysian Insider

Najib is now MIC President ?

Najib to attend Thaipusam celebration in Sungai Petani


Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak is scheduled to attend the Thaipusam celebration in Sungai Petani, Kedah, on Thursday, Kedah Umno chairman Datuk Ahmad Bashah Md Hanipah said today.

He said thousands of Hindu devotees are expected to attend the event at the Subramania Swami Devastanam (temple) in Pekan Lama which the prime minister would be visiting for the first time.

Najib, who will be making a one-day visit to Kedah on that day, would also attend a luncheon with leaders of Barisan Nasional (BN) component parties in Kedah at the Kelab Cinta Sayang in Sungai Petani.

“This will be followed by a closed-door meeting with the State Umno liaison committee members at the same venue,” Ahmad Bashah told reporters after launching the “Juara Rakyat” event organised by the Padang Serai Umno division at the multipurpose hall in Kilang Lama here.

Ahmad Bashah said the prime minister would also attend a leader-with-the-people session at the Taman Seri Pinang public field in Tikam Batu where more than 10,000 people are expected to gather. — Bernama

PKR new Vice President shows his political skills


Apang

PKR Sarawak is hot on the trial to do the unthinkable – capture Sarawak from the BN after almost five decades. After its historical direct election that is now inked on Malaysian political history, PKR has moved forward to fill the many positions by appointments. Sarawak PKR has seen a few of that.

Those receiving publicity centers around the re-appointed State Liaison Chairman and renowned native land rights lawyer, Baru Bian. But it is the appointment of an unknown,
John Tenewi Nuek ( Photo Right ) as Vice President that caught many by surprise – it is more appropriate to say “confirmation” that Anwar Ibrahim still has lots of UMNO/BN in him. It is obvious that leaders do not have to have a track record of serving the people to be appointed to top posts, as the PKR appointment of the new Vice President confirms. It may as well be a BN appointment. After all, the UMNO/BN is famous for even perfecting such practice.

But beyond the appointment of people without track record to high position, it leaves to speculation that Anwar is still playing the racial card in Sarawak, just as he did in Sabah. How else to explain that of all the four Sarawakian appointees – Vice President (John), Sarawak Liaison Chief (Baru), MPP (Chee How and Zulrusdi Mohamad Hol) – only two have public records (just Google) of serving the rakyat in Sarawak irrespective of race, religion and gender and beyond party/electoral mean – Baru Bian and See Chee How ( Photo below ).

As the saying goes, you can take Anwar out of UMNO/BN but it is another thing to take UMNO/BN out of that person!

Questions for the new VP John Tenewi Nuek

Unless I am being lumped into the factions within the PKR Sarawak for such categorizing of the new Vice President, a rather typical reaction from those who rely solely on political cronyism and nepotism to rise (and fall), l should place on record the new Vice President’s “BN-Government-serving” record as Malaysia’s ambassador to too many countries and too irrelevant to be named here. There is none which points to Sarawak’s marginalized and oppressed people being represented. The new VP even said he “served the BN government” during his time in the civil service!

As such, he joins the countless former BN-rewarded civil servants who ‘is critical of Taib.’ “Being normal lah for disgruntled retirees who criticize after they are out of service” was how an activist academician puts it. “After all, even UMNO can be critical of Taib, so no big deal lah!”

The new VP is emerging from retiring now, it seems. With his new appointment, he needs to. So in probably the first since his appointment, see what the new VP said, as is quoted:

“As an ambassador, I served the BN government, and at one stage it was with full conviction and I was proud of it.

“But I have observed that the BN government has deteriorated.”

So the new VP had no problem with the BN government when he was serving under Mahathir? So it is only after Mahathir that the BN Government had deteriorated? Mahathir must be so very pleased with his loyalist in the new PKR VP!

John goes on, “For example, you must defend government policies, especially on ISA, explain to other diplomats Anwar Ibrahim’s ‘black eyes’, Mahathir Mohamad’s remarks on ‘shoot on sight’ rather than the word ‘shoo’ against the Vietnamese refugees, Bruno Mansur’s presence in Malaysia and on environment and so on.”

Can the former ambassador and new PKR VP share with all, especially Anwar, how he explained to others of Anwar’s ‘black eyes’? Did the then ambassador echoed Mahathir’s stance and the extent to which the Royal Commission had concluded showed the then PM lied? Did the then ambassador ‘lied’ in trying to defend the Mahathir BN administration’s cover-up and the extent in which public officers, like him supposedly serving the BN Government, doctored reports, and manufactured evidence just to try to convict Anwar? Surely the then ambassador can’t be holding on to any differing explanation other than that of the almighty Mahathir and his BN Government when “explaining” to other countries. To explain any differently to what Mahathir’s BN Government was trying to hide would be going against the very BN Governement that the then ambassador was serving. Certainly that can’t be the case?

Sarawakains’ questions to the new VP

The new PKR VP must be thanked for his openness in revealing what he had to do to be Malaysia’s ambassador. While there is no detail, he needs to furnish them to show to Sarawakians what he did to defend Malaysia in regard to Bruno Manser’s presence in Malaysia and on the environment.

Sarawakians have the right to know whether the then ambassador saw the issue as land rights matter or as how the Malaysian Government propagate Manser to be the evil man out to instigate the Penans to defend their land rights. So did the then ambassador defend Malaysia on NCR lands as how the Malaysian government and Sarawak government did?

Sarawakians know too well what the BN Government has been doing to NCR lands – grab – so being the new PKR VP, Sarawakians demand the retired ambassador reveals his stance on NCR lands. After all, if he didn’t already know, his “Bidayuh” communities could testify to him how little NCR lands are left dangling by thin thread as the same BN Government he had served continue to grab from the people. Hopefully, the new PKR VP can identify with the fact that it is the kampong folks who are holding onto those thin thread by being upfront in defending their rights, and in so doing with other Dayak communities, are defending all NCR lands throughout Sarawak.

Yes, the BN was not so bad before and in Sarawak, the same BN has deteriorated, ah, ah, ah, since Taib Mahmud became Chief Minister some 30 years ago.

Last message for Anwar

The PKR de facto leader, Anwar Ibrahim must be congratulated for appointing a character such as John to be the new VP. After all, John Nuek says he is honoured by the appointment. In their first party meeting with all presence, it is expected that Anwar will have the new VP sitting near if not next to the PKR supremo to introduce the new VP as someone who had followed the Mahathir BN Government’s stance in saying that Anwar had self-inflicted his black eye.

The whole PKR must then congratulate Anwar for his forgiveness to the new VP for having defended Mahathir! The new VP should then be congratulated for being a ‘reformed’ man now, thanks to reformasi, no less!

For those in the PKR and outside who had been and are still ISA detainees, please forward your query to the new PKR VP on his stance in defending the need of ISA!

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Tone it Down - Dr.M tells Rocky and Rais.



Dr Mahathir Mohamad, the foremost blogger in the country, has sent out word to both prominent blogger Datuk Rocky Bru and Minister Datuk Seri Rais Yatim to tone down their squabble and leave the matter at hand to the authorities.

It was learned that the former Prime Minister thinks both Rocky Bru and Rais had said what they needed to say and if there were any wrongdoings, the respective authorities are already looking into it.

Che Det had made it clear that prolonging the squabble would be of no gain to either party, plus not positive to the image of the government.

Rais was a member of Dr Mahathir’s Cabinet who survived the Badawi cabinet despite his sometimes strong views against the 5th Prime Minister.

Rocky is often described as a Mahathir ally. Backed by Umno bloggers who are Mahathir loyalists, notably Big Dog, Rocky has launched a series of postings attacking Rais since October, after the Minister had lodged a police report on Rocky for his posting calling for greater transparency at Rais’ ministry.

Several parties, including Umno leaders, have attempted to bring together the warring parties but without success.

Rocky’s last posting related to Rais was published here... on a police investigation into a maid rape scandal, which Rais has refuted.

Big Dog is expected to be called in by the police soon.

courtesy of APANAMA
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